[TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:05 Okay, so now I've got the transcript going. There we go. Hopefully Terry will show up, but Another name involved, so I have to ask her about that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:16 Oh boy, just realized didn't pull up the information. Really. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:25 Why is it doing this to me? I have a whole file name, No, I have Walker and Marks. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:37 Oh, I'm so confused. Okay, Lynn, that's what it is, Lin writes, okay. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:47 Hi, Terry. Oh, you're so. You're connecting. Oh right, or you're there. [Terri Marks] 17:02:50 Hi. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:54 I hear your voice now. Yay! I am so glad to meet you. We didn't get we haven't been able to talk. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:02:59 I know that you've been trying to kind of get to a point where you felt comfortable. And We meet you. [Terri Marks] 17:03:03 Yes. Yes, likewise. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:06 It's good to see you. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:08 Such a rough day. I'm a mess today. I've been doing I've kind of moved. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:15 I'm like in a temporary move. So it's like, so I've been doing in the 90 degree weather all day today. [Terri Marks] 17:03:20 Oh yeah, I'm so sorry. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:20 So. No. Actually, 93 degrees. [Terri Marks] 17:03:26 Oh no, compare that to the heat wave and do burn. It's a nightmare. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:29 Hello, yeah Yeah, that's right. Dubai, that's so exciting actually to me. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:37 It's exciting. So. [Terri Marks] 17:03:42 I'm originally from North Carolina. I'm in North Carolina now on summer break. And I go back to Dubai and all actually in another week or so so I my flight is on the seventh. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:45 Oh good. [Terri Marks] 17:03:53 I go back then. So been an exciting journey. I am, you know. I've been blessed with a rare opportunity. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:03:55 Yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:04:01 You know, I didn't even think I was gonna be in Dubai, but you know, God, so. [Terri Marks] 17:04:06 Ahead of the other planes another priority. So I thought, you know, if I'm being China, maybe Tunisia or other, you know, countries, but I didn't realize God was gonna pet Dubai, so. [Terri Marks] 17:04:18 Here I am. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:04:18 Are you a Christian? If you don't mind me asking, I'm sorry, cause you mentioned God now a couple of times. [Terri Marks] 17:04:22 Yeah, I'm a, I don't consider myself Christian. I can say myself a child of God. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:04:28 Oh, nice. [Terri Marks] 17:04:28 I'm more spirited than religious. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:04:31 Oh, you have another client who he actually puts child of God on his on his thing and I have to remember, okay, your name is James, not child of God. [Terri Marks] 17:04:38 Yes. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:04:39 I love that. I love it. I think that's really, really cool. And that is so exciting and I knew that was not a Dubai accent. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:04:51 So I mean, I don't know like, I'm from Chicago land originally, but I'm in Orlando, so I so you're not you're not that far from me at the moment. [Terri Marks] 17:05:02 I left. Yeah. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:05:06 Cool, well tell me a little bit about, you know, about your whole writing journey. What it is that you're looking for, a little bit more about your story and and and what you're looking for. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:05:16 I just want to hear. [Terri Marks] 17:05:16 Hey, so I'm a mix. I'm a mixed bag. I'm be honest. [Terri Marks] 17:05:21 So I'll start from the beginning. I'm not new to writing. But I am new to screen writing and, This is no slight to any other author. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:05:26 Okay. [Terri Marks] 17:05:33 But I, I'm a, I'm not gonna state my beliefs. Well, I'll put it this way. [Terri Marks] 17:05:39 I did should start writing yesterday. I have a long-term relationship. With literacy, storytelling. [Terri Marks] 17:05:47 And carrots building and world building since I was in grade. 2. So my I've been in a relationship with literature and literacy and writing for 20 years. [Terri Marks] 17:06:00 And my writing has evolved from a child up until now I'm 35 years old. So my right and has really evolved, significantly in a bit manner. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:06:11 What's that? [Terri Marks] 17:06:12 So that's me in a nutshell. I love fiction writing. I had a stand. [Terri Marks] 17:06:19 I'm still in in the program. But I, I've taken a leave of apps and it's from the MFA. [Terri Marks] 17:06:25 Pro my screen writing and that was a result of me moving from you know the states who do buy. And my school not permit me to leave this, for an extended amount of time for, for, you know, when they had their retreats, and 10 day residences. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:06:40 Right. [Terri Marks] 17:06:40 I can leave my campus so. I had to defer. A semester but . So I do have some experience of screenwriting and I am an MFA program by taking a leave of absence I am seriously considering an MFA in creative writing very seriously considering that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:06:56 Okay. [Terri Marks] 17:07:02 And I have been several MFA writing programs. But because the student loans and then my mother became sick. [Terri Marks] 17:07:09 At the time and it was a lot of movement going on. I, you know, decided not to pursue the programs. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:07:16 Right. [Terri Marks] 17:07:17 But I have slance, you know, I've written a book. Is in this ugly stage. [Terri Marks] 17:07:23 It's a first draft. I submitted it to an editor. It has been. It's a, it has been polished just a little bit, but it's a hot mess. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:07:25 It's all the puke draft, right? [Terri Marks] 17:07:36 Cause I understand they need to undergo 4 more. Before I can even consider. Stopping it with an agent or a publishing house. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:07:37 Hmm. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:07:45 Right. [Terri Marks] 17:07:45 So. It got it got it undergo 4 more rewrites. So that's the stage. [Terri Marks] 17:07:50 I'm at. As far as the book is concerned. It is, I have It's the, you know, I'm looking off desk chips, where I'm talking so sorry. Excuse me, I'm so sorry. We may have an interruption. [Terri Marks] 17:08:05 My sister and my niece is coming in from the field when they do we don't just go outside. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:08:08 Oh, okay. [Terri Marks] 17:08:09 But this book is a really I honestly don't know how to describe it because it is it. It takes different shapes and forms each time. [Terri Marks] 17:08:21 1 min it's a psychological thriller. The next instance is a horror story. The next instance is a viral, a horrible psychological driller. [Terri Marks] 17:08:32 Then the next answers is romantic thrill. So I really don't know what it is, but I do know this woman is on the run. [Terri Marks] 17:08:40 People now who they say they are. And she learned that the one that's closest to her. [Terri Marks] 17:08:45 Really has evil intentions. Very evil intentions. And she has been accused of some things that she has not done. [Terri Marks] 17:08:54 So that's the crux of the story. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:08:57 Interesting. Does he have a title or a working title at this point? [Terri Marks] 17:09:01 It does. It's called when it rained. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:03 When it rained. What? [Terri Marks] 17:09:04 Yeah, right. You would know, no, no, ED or no S. It's just when it rain. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:11 Oh. No, I kinda like it with when it rained. It has has has a feel to it, you know, so when it That's pretty cool. [Terri Marks] 17:09:12 Okay, the rings. Yeah. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:22 I, that sounds really, really interesting and you know, it's to your advantage to be, a little, eclectic. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:32 In your genre storytelling these days, you know, if you're in MFAs and you're in MFAs and you're in different, programs and stuff, you're probably hearing this too, or it's like, you In the old days, it's like, nope, you have to pick a genre, stick with it and hit those tropes and [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:49 do it a certain way and everything and of course we our audiences are now kind of all over the place and so they like their story telling to be a little bit all over the place. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:09:57 And so. [Terri Marks] 17:09:58 You're right, we can transition now, right now. But keep talking. We keep talking. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:02 Oh. Okay. But, yeah, so you're, in actually a good place in that you have several genres that are kind of mixing together. [Terri Marks] 17:10:11 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:11 So that's kind of That's actually kind of a cool thing. And II think you're on something with that. [Terri Marks] 17:10:15 Yes. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:19 How many words approximately do you think it's gonna turn out to be? [Terri Marks] 17:10:22 So right now I got 320 pages. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:24 Only 20 pages, you're probably in the How many 100 and something 1,000 range of words? [Terri Marks] 17:10:26 Yes. [Terri Marks] 17:10:31 Right, right, right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:33 Okay, well that's interesting, because that's, also good for a couple of these genres in the book form and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:43 And you can imagine that sometimes what the, what the big challenges when you're trying to adapt a story to screenplay. [Terri Marks] 17:10:52 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:10:52 Is that you've got A 320 page you know book that's like really fat like this so that you're trying to get into the skinny little 120 page. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:11:04 Script and so that's sometimes a challenge you have to do. The [Terri Marks] 17:11:07 Right. So I'm not as well as we should wish this outside. I can come A/C on in my car. [Terri Marks] 17:11:13 Oh, we were still alone. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:11:13 Oh yeah, get them. Get that A/C on. Don't worry. I can see you as long as you can hear me and I can hear you that's all we really need to have. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:11:23 But yeah, I was out, I was out on in traffic today and it hit a dead stop and then And then my A/C went out in my car. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:11:32 Cause I was going to pick up supplies for this move that I'm doing and everything. Oh yeah, it was horrible. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:11:37 So hopefully that will not happen to you. You need to keep your work. Keep the A/C going. But anyhow, so that's one of the challenges that you definitely come across is that, that, You're already working to break a story to make it work to get it to all gel together and everything and then you're told now you have to get rid of half of it because it has to go into [Terri Marks] 17:11:39 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:02 a screenplay. But do you think this is the kind of thing? Cause if it's got a thriller aspect to it seems to me like even not knowing that much about it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:12 Then it probably has series potential, not just. [Terri Marks] 17:12:16 It's, I generally thought about that too. Yeah, I did. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:19 Okay, open too because, cause that, might be it's better thing. And then, so now we're gonna take this big thing and we're just gonna break it down to a pilot episode which is actually not the worst thing in the world that's actually it takes some of the pressure off it's like I don't have to try to figure out how to tell the whole story. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:38 And pitch that story. [Terri Marks] 17:12:39 That's one thing I consider if she's going to jail, someone's not going to jail overnight. [Terri Marks] 17:12:46 There's just not, it's take years for them to get a court case. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:50 Well, yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:12:52 Not involved. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:12:53 Yeah. And you, it sounds like you do your research. You wanna know these things. You, you wanna know how it really works and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:01 And then you have to figure out, okay, how does it work in the movies? And, and in TV and, real life and we always want to gel as much of that as we can because we have such savvy audiences nowadays. [Terri Marks] 17:13:05 Right. [Terri Marks] 17:13:12 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:12 It's like, you know, like, get away with some of the stuff that we still can actually a little bit, but the way CSI, you know, has changed how things work. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:21 It's like, yeah, you don't get the DNA. Results the next day. That's just not how it, although nowadays the tech has been catching up and you do get it a lot faster. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:31 So. So there's certain magical things that you can make happen in your screenplay that your research says takes months and everything and that's what you always have to figure out what that balances. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:41 So I get it, it's a lot to try to process, be creative, get it done, manage your own time, make it all work and everything and, and, you had mentioned that you're, feeling like you need a book. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:13:56 And a writing coach to kind of keep you on track. To help you figure out, you know, while you're looking here, you know, what's happening in the future and and how you're looking forward and everything and make sure that you don't lose track of the track that you're on because when you're like this you can start veering off and everything so. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:14:14 So I think you're right that you pop that is probably what you need. Normally what I do is I say send me send me your, send me your manuscript and let me kind of go through it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:14:25 Do a big review of it and and then I'll kind of give you some, ideas of different things you could do, but it sounds to me like we already know that you probably need like some coaching. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:14:37 So that you can make sure you stay on track. [Terri Marks] 17:14:39 You probably guessed me, but you guessed me right. It is an OEM project and I have, you know, between my job and some I do kind of go slacking, but I say, God, I really do need a coach. [Terri Marks] 17:14:52 I really need someone to keep me accountable and help me submit my things on time. And I came across your profile, you know, when email and with, I think what's named that company. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:14:56 Exactly. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:02 How is, I think it was paper raven, but I'm not. [Terri Marks] 17:15:06 Yeah, yeah, it's paper raising. I've seen your profile. I didn't read a lot a lot. [Terri Marks] 17:15:12 I said, okay. So she has, experience with writing books and screen plays, I think me and her need to connect. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:18 Yeah, yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:15:21 So like Oh, what's been, your experience with it, with the, like, Yeah. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:27 Okay, so what's happened, recently is that I have really moved into that because I personally worked with paper Raven, but I worked with them kind of after the fact. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:38 So my my story and I won't go too deep into my story, but basically. I, well, yeah, I will go deep into it this way. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:45 Cause you were telling me a little bit about how you know you are not news writing and everything like that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:15:52 Well, I'm quite a bit older than you. Quite a bit. And, when I was young, my whole family pretty much discovered that, okay, she has a couple of things she wants to do in her life and she's got some talent. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:16:05 They were shocked to find that I actually had a little talent in some things. And my dad was a musician and it was kind of decided as a family that I would sing when I was young and I would write when I'm old, cause those were the 2 things that I wanted to do and I wanted to do everything all at once and my family sort of helped me I got my own coach with my whole family and that's exactly what [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:16:28 happened is that after 25 years or so of singing songwriting and traveling and doing a lot of stuff with music and that was my full time thing for a long long time. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:16:38 I came across a story that I just had to tell and I could just see it on the big screen and I had to figure out everything about that story. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:16:48 It was about Lady Pirates, believe it or not, actual women pirates who lived 300 years ago and they lived right near where I'm living now in Orlando. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:16:59 I'm not in Orlando right now. I'm in my transition place in the middle of nowhere in Florida. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:03 But, you know, here in Florida, we had a lot of pirates that came along and that and that brought us the golden age of piracy and I did all this research met a lot of people who know all about that stuff and everything and then I'm like, so how do you write a screenplay? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:19 I had to figure that out, you know, so I went on my own journey and I did not have a coach. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:23 I did not have somebody helping me and I really wish I did on a lot of the stuff. But what's really interesting is I feel like that day that I found out about those. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:32 I was on a break from singing. I never went back. So I guess I turned old that day because that was the life plan, right? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:37 When I'm old, I'll write. Well, I decided that that's what I'm doing now is I'm a writer. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:17:42 And that's the path that I went down, figured it all out, started some writing. Groups and, you know, we learned together and started getting some attention when I started figuring out, oh, There's like, it's not a formula for writing, but it's a formula for how to like move ahead and get forward in in the screen writing world. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:05 And, so I figured some things out, started winning some contests. But I wrote the prequel to my pirate story, I guess you could say, and it's actually back here. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:17 Oh, it's so far away. I'm gonna knock things over. Well, that's not the one I was reaching for, but I can't even reach, but anyhow, it's called the treasure galleons and I turned it into a into a. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:29 Screen play and it won several contests like several and I developed it with producer that is the one time that I had some good help. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:38 I can't even get it back up there. Well, maybe I can get that one to fall too. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:40 Hello, there we go. So this is what it is. And it's about the treasure galleons that came along and it's about the treasure galleons that came along and that's what brought all the pirates to the Caribbean and that's what brought all the pirates to the Caribbean and gave us the Pirates of the Caribbean and gave us those [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:18:54 female pirates eventually. And then, I turned it into a book. And you can see it's fairly thick, but it's not thick. It's not a thick book. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:19:01 It's a pretty easy read and everything. But turning it into a book was was like kind of one of those. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:19:09 Aha moments and working with Paper Raven. Years later because I did this in 2,015 this events these true events happened in 1715 And so that's when I wanted to get it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:19:23 That's when I really wanted to get the publishing done. I had already won some contests with it in the years part in a couple years prior and and there was a big event. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:19:33 Because all that stuff happened here in Florida. There was a big event commemorating because there were a lot of lives lost because they were shiwrecks that left all this treasure, here on the, what they now call the treasure coast where they, where they send off the rockets, the space coast is also the treasure coast here in Florida because that's where these ships rep. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:19:53 So, 300 years later they did that. Did a book signing sold out on my books and started, you know, realizing, okay, I'm a best, I can become a bestseller if I get strategic and then years later I decided to start working with Paper Raven. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:20:10 I love Morgan. I don't know how if you know her too well if you know anything about her if you've really worked with them at all. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:20:16 But, they helped me, you know, obtain that constant. Best seller status. And so that that that was a really good experience working with them and now I've been working with with her on the fact that because I am kind of a specialist in screen writing, she's like, well, let me tell other people. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:20:36 About you and then send them your way. That's how you ended up hearing about me. Another thing that, significant in my background that I take to the table is that then this other book that fell first is a book that I wrote. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:20:52 Because I was having trouble, I was very much like you were I needed some guidance and I was having some trouble figuring out how do I really break a story and stick with it and take it all the way from start to finish and make sure that it's exactly what I wanted it to be. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:08 It may not be what I envisioned at the beginning, but I wanted to I want to be really happy with it at the end and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:15 I ended up going on this retreat and I won't go too deep into that story but I wrote it in 48 h as a screenplay. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:23 Because of this retreat situation. I already kind of had it in my head and I had an outline and stuff but wrote it in 48 h that was point of the retreat. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:30 Polish it up a little bit, sent it off and it's one. All these different contests and then It's been optioned a couple of times by some producers and it's actually optioned right now by a producer who he was the producer of bones the producer of Queen of the South if you've ever seen that which was an absolute series. [Terri Marks] 17:21:49 Okay. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:51 And, and so then at the same time, in our contract it said that I get to keep the rights to the book. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:21:58 And so I turned it into a bestseller the very month that we were signing the option for that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:04 So now it's in pre-production. And so this producer has hold of the script version and he is turning it into it, but he also allowed me to go ahead and turn it into a book and and turn it into a bestseller. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:16 So that was like another aha moment that's like Speed in writing. Getting that puked draft done, but then also figuring out how to make sure that it stays on track and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:27 And speed is part of it. So that's one of the things that I would help you with a little bit. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:31 If that's what you want but if you like to kind of marinate on a story then I can help you stay focused so that you don't start marinating and then it takes you, like I said, takes you off to the wrong side or something because you want to keep your goal. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:44 Of it. Oh, that's screenplay. It's going to become that series or that movie and or actually I think both. [Terri Marks] 17:22:44 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:51 My, one of the things that I've realized is that a great way to do it is turn the book. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:22:59 Into a movie screenplay. And it's gonna be, it's gonna have everything in it if you want it to have it in it or at least turn it into a 2 h. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:09 Pilot for a series, you know, because the book itself should also be part of a series, usually. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:16 The book that you're writing now, if it's a thriller, it probably has the potential of there's going to be other books and paper Raven would say this too. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:25 It's like make it part of a series, write more books, same character or that have the same story world or both or whatever, you know, and and that's how you kind of make it all have its own life and then it gives you the power to also go and create other things as well because we all want to, I mean, this one's about a ghost girl. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:44 I don't write about ghosts. You know, I'm actually, I'm a Christian and I don't even really necessarily believe in ghosts, but I don't not believe in them. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:54 I don't like disbelief in ghosts, but I don't not believe in them. [Terri Marks] 17:23:57 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:23:57 I don't like disbelief in them or anything, but it was an exercise about it's based on a true story actually of somebody, a young girl who thought that she saw a ghost and was talking to somebody who wanted her to help her solve her murder. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:24:06 And that's and she really, and this happened in real life. And I was questioning, well, is she a medium or? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:24:14 Is she? You know, having some psychological problems? And that's kind of what the story, you know, explores a little bit, but it's really more about it's more about the fun part and it's just assuming that yeah, she she can talk to the dead girl. [Terri Marks] 17:24:29 Oh my goodness, I'll just cradle juice as kids flowing as I'm talking to you. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:24:32 So. [Terri Marks] 17:24:33 So I'm gonna be a Hey, each other. All down, we gotta figure out how time zone differences and like how in the frequency and then about the packages like how much are your packages? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:24:46 Well, I started 6,000 when it comes to when it comes to coaching. I started 6,000 and then it goes it you know depending on what you need me to do, coaching. I started 6,000 and then it goes, you know, depending on what you need me to do. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:24:58 I mean, I could go over 25,000, cause I can help you with the production and everything, but I pretty much try to keep it between 6 and 25. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:05 Depending on what you need. With what you need. I think we can just start at 6 and then we we explore. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:13 Do you really need more than this? You know, cause it might just be accountability to get you started. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:18 One of the things that comes with that. Is and of course we package it to you. So I can't say this is what I do for everybody because everybody needs something slightly different. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:28 Everybody starts in different place, but I also. I include as much done through you stuff as possible. Some editing you know like when you're ready to get it to the point where it's like okay now I feel like it's it is polished enough that it needs to be you know, cleaned up, polished and sent to somebody to read. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:48 Then I make sure that I give it a good thorough edit so that if you're not gonna send off something that's filled with all these errors and everything, cause we can't see our own. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:25:57 I'm an editor and yet. I have my own mistakes that I'm putting in things all the time because I can't see my own errors. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:03 So I do that as well as just making sure that you understand the publishing process and you have and you have all the options on the table. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:14 You know you'd mentioned something and I'll ask you about this. You had mentioned, you know, you know, trying to get an agent or trying to get it to a publishing house and trying to get a publisher and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:22 And so what I do is I make sure that you're aware of all the different opportunities that are out there. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:27 Beyond what's the traditional publishing way. And what is the best one for you for where you're at. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:34 Is it best for you to go after and you can it's there's no reason you can't do more than one thing at the same time. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:42 But you know. When you're polishing your script, you're doing it for the reader. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:46 And is that reader, are you gonna oh do I still have you? You just, you just went so you went so still I thought you first. [Terri Marks] 17:26:49 Yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:26:54 I'm just, I'm listening. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:26:56 That was so good. That was so funny. I thought I brought you pros for a second. But, that you, you might want to, go after a traditional publisher and see if they will publish it for you and see if they will publish it for you and they'll get it to the reader. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:27:09 But you also, I want to keep your mind open to the fact that things are changing with Amazon, the way things are, you can actually be master of your own story, master of your own career, have the control without being control freak and without like doing more than you wanna do, cause you know, you're the writer, you don't necessarily want to be the business person all the time. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:27:35 But if you can be a little bit of both. Then you can really take it pretty far and you can make more money. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:27:43 Self-publishing. So I'd want to keep your mind open to all the different possibilities and make sure that we know what the opportunities are. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:27:51 That way. Look. [Terri Marks] 17:27:51 That's about the bit. You said something about production piece. And you said that's about 25. [Terri Marks] 17:27:58 What would that this have? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:00 Well, it now if I if we get into production and we try to we try to do some producing for you we'd start that would actually kind of start at 25 so that's why it's at the top end of my coaching. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:12 Because now we're moving into more of. Sort of managerial. Position and I am matching up and trying to find people who are gonna, you know, fund the thing. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:27 And I'm gonna, you know, Yeah, try to find some people who, you know, I will help you with pitching it to people at whatever price range. [Terri Marks] 17:28:28 Really? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:37 If I know that there's somebody, if I just happen to know that somebody is, cause that's what happened with this book. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:42 Is that it was entered into a contest. This producer from Bones, he's like, I really love horror. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:28:50 This isn't even a horror story, but you know, has ghost in it. And he wanted a story that specifically had a girl who was talking to another dead person who was trying to solve that person's murder and and and had like specific things he was looking for. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:04 He described it to somebody that person happened to be in charge of one of the contests that I had entered. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:11 I don't think I even won that contest. I think it was one where I had just placed. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:14 In the contest in that particular one. And the person remembered the story. And so he's like, well, I know about this one thing. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:23 I'll look it up and I'll find it and he sent it to him and this this producer said he read on he read it and he was in the middle of finishing up whatever project he was on and then a couple of months later he contacts me out of the blue and it's like I never pitched it to him I didn't know anything about it's because somebody had read it or even knew about somebody [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:40 reading it. And introduced the person who was looking for that exact story. So I will always do that for you no matter whether you're paying 5,000 6,000 10,000 20,000 you know but I [Terri Marks] 17:29:50 If you see that potential. Of being TV series and you feel it. That's what that's what you aim for. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:29:57 Yeah. Yeah, and then, and I'm going after people. I'm, I'm not just waiting for if I happen to hear of somebody who's looking for if I happen to hear of somebody who's looking for the exact story that you've written. [Terri Marks] 17:29:59 Okay. Press my stuff. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:10 You know, so I, you know, but I can put myself in the position of that person like that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:15 No matter what. So, cause if I know your story. And cause I've worked with you and I know your story and then somebody says, hey, do you know anybody who has a script that, you know, has blah, blah, blah. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:28 And I'm like, yes. I do. Terry has that. Oh, I have a question about your name, by the way. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:33 Lynn writes fiction. So is that your pen name is Lynn? [Terri Marks] 17:30:35 Yeah, it's gonna be my PIN name is gonna be LAN Thomas. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:40 I like that. Okay, and I have 10 names too, so I get it. I totally get that. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:30:46 So, yes. But anyhow, so yeah, so I can go on the higher end because I can and I keep doing this because I'm kind of picturing like this production team that's over in the Ether's over there. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:01 But I can go after like getting the right people together to see if we can. I can go after like getting the right people together to see if we can, get a proof of concept film made, get a, you know, get, get certain things, foundationally done. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:14 And then, Of course, then the more money you put in, then of course that money can actually go into actual production. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:22 And stuff like that. But that's not something that I like blatantly offer. It's just something that is open. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:28 You know, of course I'm open to that because I want to help you as much as possible. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:30 It's just that it becomes a little bit more of a full-time job for me to do some of that because now I'm actively going after people trying to find people who are looking for a story like yours. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:41 And that takes a lot more of my time and energy to do that, which means that I'm not going to be able to work with as many other people, which is why it's a higher price point. [Terri Marks] 17:31:50 Right. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:50 And that's that's why I have kind of this huge, you know, spectrum of prices that way. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:31:58 So I think starting. Just right in the $6,000 range just to kind of get a feel. And then we decide if there's more that we need to do. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:08 But part of that does include that done for you and the other thing that I do is really big. And this is really big because this is that fast button is that once you do have enough of a polyish on the story that you feel like it's got all the elements, may not be perfect. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:21 May not even be published yet. I can turn it into a screenplay first draft. Immediately like within a week or 2, I can do that. [Terri Marks] 17:32:27 What? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:31 And, and that's something that I always wanted to do for somebody because I don't want you doing it that yourself because that is so overwhelming. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:39 And I even use AI to do that. I'll be honest, I use AI to do that, but I know how to use it in such a way that it's like it'll get the results technically. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:47 But then I still have to work with it and get it to the point where it's like, okay, now it's what it needs to be. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:32:54 All the nuances of what make a good screenplay in today's world. You know, I put those together and it's a rough first draft, but at least it's something to work with and then you don't have to go through all the the heartache of like, how do you write the first rap that's so hard, you know, because screenwriting. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:33:12 Is another animal. [Terri Marks] 17:33:13 It is. Right. And I had to learn that the hard way. Not in the beginning. [Terri Marks] 17:33:19 Save the MFA problem. It's another animal. It's their sisters, but they're completely different. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:33:22 Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And I just, again, I like to give the easy button, but I also like to put a big, you know, turbo boost of speed on it as well. [Terri Marks] 17:33:31 Right, right. Okay, this sounds so amazing. So I guess our next. [Terri Marks] 17:33:38 The next step after this is your email in the in my email in the in the invite. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:33:45 It should be. Let's see here. On my end, it looks like you would see it probably. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:33:51 It looks like, yeah. So it should be, but either way, I can send you an email. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:33:55 What I can do, and this is what I normally do, but I'm doing things a little differently with you because you're still working on it and we know that this is the direction that you need to go because you know what you want. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:34:07 And, so what I can do is I can put together a package thing. I don't know what to call it, but this package thing where I And this is kinda cool too because I'm working with a company that they've just implemented something where it might make it even better where it's a $6,000 package and yet If they have it working where you can do it, you might be able to choose [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:34:32 an option with them through, there's like 2 or 3 options. I don't think it dings your credit, but I'm not sure. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:34:40 We'll have to find out as we do it. This is new. So I'm not a hundred percent sure how to work, but you could choose one of their options that they have and then that way they pay me right away. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:34:51 And I'm like, well, they'll do that. Then I'll take a thousand dollars off. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:34:53 I'll take it for $5,000 on my end. And then you make your payments, you make your arrangements with them. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:00 Or you can just pay me in all at once and you could do it at 5,000 or you could pay it over time and that'll make it 6,000. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:09 So it'd be $500 a month for a year. To pay the 600. Let me fix that. [Terri Marks] 17:35:13 Not bad at all. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:14 Yeah, so, yeah, I'm trying to make it as affordable, possible, make it. [Terri Marks] 17:35:16 I feel. Yeah. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:18 Yeah, it's much as you possibly can out of it. And so that I can give you as much as I possibly can. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:26 And I can send that to you and then that way it's like. If you read it and you like, no, this isn't gonna work for me, you know, if after forethought, you know, I mean, after afterthought, it's just not gonna really work for you, then that's fine. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:43 You can just walk away from it or you can call me and set up another Zoom and we can talk a little bit more like, you know what, this will be great but let's do this or whatever. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:51 Can I, can I, you know, I wanna make sure we customize it to what your needs are. [Terri Marks] 17:35:54 That's all. Tim, I will. I ain't trying to bread, but you are really gonna like my concept. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:35:54 That way. [Terri Marks] 17:36:01 It is, a TV series where Show. But you're really gonna like it. I've never seen it on TV before or in or read about it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:01 Hello? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:10 Good. Let's. [Terri Marks] 17:36:11 Yes. If we mind blowing and you'll have the opportunity to work with me. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:16 Ha ha! I love that! I love your confidence. That's that's and I wanna make sure that that gets fed because I can also tell you that you know, when you do go the route of where you're kind of putting your fate in some other people's hands who will make it amazing for you if they if they say yes but it's all those nose before you get to that yes I don't want them to [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:42 break your spirit so that's why once we have other options besides going after traditional publishing because they can break it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:50 Those nose can really kill you. There's a lot of them. [Terri Marks] 17:36:52 Yeah. Yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:36:56 Oh, but yes, so go and email me that. and again, I try, you know, put my business out there, but luckily I am, you know, I do have a look at a career so the payments is really not a problem. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:36:59 I will. [Terri Marks] 17:37:11 It's just a matter of me juggling things around. And for how to finance this part or paid that bill or that bill. That's all that's going on right now, not the money issue, but just the juggling. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:37:13 Sure. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:37:23 Exactly. [Terri Marks] 17:37:24 So. We should hear back from me, so it's your line. Give me some time next month to hear back from me. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:37:31 Okay. [Terri Marks] 17:37:32 It's even that and we can come up with some type of arrangement concrete where we can really get some things started or you at least have an idea of when I want to get started with you. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:37:41 Okay, that's sounds really good. Now sometimes what I do is I send out this like, I think I mentioned it, a pro, which is like basically kind of like a proposal. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:37:52 Slash invoice that once you pay it then it kinda kicks things into gear but i'm not gonna do it I'm gonna what I'm gonna do is send you the thing that I was telling you about with this company. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:01 Things are a little new. I'm trying to figure out a couple things with them. So give me until the weekend I will send this out to you by the weekend. [Terri Marks] 17:38:08 Okay, good. Okay, cool. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:09 Yeah. And so it'll be a couple of days, because I really wanna get it worked out with them and they're in New Zealand. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:15 So at least their tech people are New Zealand. So I send them something like if I wait until tomorrow to send them something, which I might not be able to get anything till then to them until then, they might already be into their weekend by the time they see it. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:28 So it might actually be Monday before I. Hello to that to you before, before the weekend, but if it is after the weekend, don't think that I've forgotten about you. [Terri Marks] 17:38:30 No worries. No worries. [Terri Marks] 17:38:41 Oh, of course, of course, of course. II think I think we're the best. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:42 And then you [Terri Marks] 17:38:46 I feel that we're, I think we have to create a connection. II think we're gonna work well together. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:49 I, well, I love your personality. From the second I saw you, I just, I, you had energy. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:38:57 Wonderful. Every time, by the way, I see those beautiful nails. My favorite color is yellow, so very good. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:05 I told you. Okay. I love it. Well, it's perfect. [Terri Marks] 17:39:06 Hey, you got a little design. They got little. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:13 It's perfect exactly as it is. Well, I will get that off too and you and it will be a forever kind of thing. [Terri Marks] 17:39:15 Okay. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:21 And but like I said, it's also changeable. But it'll come to you and then you know you have A week, a month, 2 months, however long you need, okay? [Terri Marks] 17:39:22 Right. [Terri Marks] 17:39:30 Thank you so much. Your such a pleasure talking with you. I feel good. I'm in in my down the great note. [Terri Marks] 17:39:38 I had I had a bad You know, I was having a bad day early, but I feel a lot better now. [Terri Marks] 17:39:41 So thank you for making my day so much better. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:43 I get it. I had a, I had not so great day too with that whole highway situation as having so, and everything. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:51 So I'm really glad and I'm looking for I want to know more about this story. I can't wait to [Terri Marks] 17:39:56 He won't be very blown away. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:39:58 I am really looking forward to it. Yay, I'll get that off you and we'll be talking soon and you can set up a time with me anytime you want. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:07 I'll make sure in my email I give you information about that too. [Terri Marks] 17:40:09 Absolutely. Thank you so. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:11 Yeah, safe travels and. So you're gonna be seeing your sister? Is that where you're going right now? [Terri Marks] 17:40:14 Yes. [Terri Marks] 17:40:18 Yeah, my sister is with me. Well, she's not physically with me now, but she's in a house and she can be sad to see me go, but I gotta go back to the [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:18 See your sister? [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:27 That's exactly what I was just thinking is this like, yeah, spend as much time. Yeah. [Terri Marks] 17:40:31 I'm interested. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:34 I get it. I got a sister too. She's on the other side of the state and you think that she was on the other side of the world? Do I never get to see her? [Terri Marks] 17:40:41 Oh. But yes, looking for an email and working with you. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:41 So. Okay. So. Come on. [TammyGross-ReelAuthor-] 17:40:47 I'm here. Same here. Take care [Terri Marks] 17:40:49 Alright, have a good day